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From what I've read about transhumanism as a general philosopy (i guess you'd call it) It appears to advocate both physical and mental improvement to the point where physical improvement should only really occur within the boundaries of the mental. From what I can gather, to progress and become better humans we should not only change our physical but also our mental, cultivating and retaining the best qualities of our nature so that we are kinder, more understanding/compassionate, better able to relate and interact with others etc. It is within these improved mental capacities therefore that we will be best able to make desicions about the technologies we chose to enhance our bodies with, how they should be distributed within the population and generally avoid the pitfalls such as inequality that are likely to arise.
If this is the case, then mental advancement should preceed physical in order that it is used properly. However it seems the possibilities of improving the physical body through technology are more realised than those that will improve our mental attributes.
Do we therefore wait until they have the technology to make us all more compassionate loving human beings capable of using the physical technology wisely? Do we undertake a process of improvement on our own without technological help and then decide when we are ready? Do we just leave the decisions and legislations up to someone else or finally do we just go ahead and improve our physicality and hope the mental follows? Or is none of this a consideration should we just all be free to change ourselves in whatever ways we think will make us better?
If this is the case, then mental advancement should preceed physical in order that it is used properly. However it seems the possibilities of improving the physical body through technology are more realised than those that will improve our mental attributes.
Do we therefore wait until they have the technology to make us all more compassionate loving human beings capable of using the physical technology wisely? Do we undertake a process of improvement on our own without technological help and then decide when we are ready? Do we just leave the decisions and legislations up to someone else or finally do we just go ahead and improve our physicality and hope the mental follows? Or is none of this a consideration should we just all be free to change ourselves in whatever ways we think will make us better?
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Re: physical or mental improvement first?
Sun, July 23, 2006 - 4:39 PM>cultivating and retaining the best qualities of our nature so that we are kinder, more understanding/compassionate, better able to relate and interact with others etc.
You consider these to be our best qualities? Surely sheep have these qualities to a comparable extent.
Our best quality is that we can occasionally see in advance how to exploit available resources without exhausting them. -
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Re: physical or mental improvement first?
Mon, July 24, 2006 - 6:39 AMI wouldn't disagree with you too much about your sheep comment. I'm just curious to see what exactly people deem to be our best qualities. Am I correct in assuming then that you consider our most worthy qualities to be those that provide financial gain and a lifestyle comparable to what we have at the moment but all done with foresight so we don't face problems like fuel crisis, over polluting etc?
Back slightly to your sheep comment, do you think that traits such as compassion, understanding should be considered less worthy if one considers them to be applicable to both humans and animals- are the most importand and best qualities in humans ones that they share with no other organisms? -
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Re: physical or mental improvement first?
Thu, July 27, 2006 - 11:45 PMOur skulls didn't get bigger to hold more compassion. -
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Re: physical or mental improvement first?
Fri, July 28, 2006 - 8:57 AM>>>>Our skulls didn't get bigger to hold more compassion. <<<<
First prove this assumption with evidence that can be independently supported.
and second realize that compassion is a sign of intelligence too.
Along with the overall development of human intelligence has been a commensurate development of sympathetic and empathetic behaviors. These are ALSO forms of intelligence, especially with respect to social competence; the function of social primate behavior that has been crucial to humanity's accelerated development. -
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Re: physical or mental improvement first?
Fri, July 28, 2006 - 6:22 PMIntelligence doesn't make compassion more possible.
It only makes compassion more practical. -
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Re: physical or mental improvement first?
Thu, December 28, 2006 - 10:38 PMUh right, intelligence doesn't make compassion more possible, so modify the mechanisms compassion, ever think of that? ever here of MDMA, Stablon and GHB? we know its possible for empathy to change temporarily there for it can be changed permanently. Here we go again with people focusing only on intelligence and forget that compassion and euphoria level are also biological -
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Re: physical or mental improvement first?
Sun, April 15, 2007 - 4:28 PMthe two circularly lead back to each other; both reflectively is the best path.
do inner work to do your outer work and outer work to do your inner work.
the inner world is more elastic to our will and thus we can at first change it more quickly.
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Re: physical or mental improvement first?
Thu, December 28, 2006 - 12:51 AMMental first
and specifically state of consciousness more than intelligence
in other words, how well you feel, how empathic and social you feel, how driven motivated and euphoric you feel more than how intelligent you feel
that first.
then the rest will be in safe hands